jesus: "so that is why you all get sick and die, because adam and eve grabbed an apple from the tree that god told them not to.".
a man from the crowd: "but why are we punished for something we didn't do, we don't even know that man and woman, that was thousands of years ago!".
jesus: "my father exercises perfect justice, believe me when i tell you when i say you got what was coming to you.
Rutherford said rockets would never leave the earth's atmosphere as they would have "nothing to push against" beyond there. I imagine he never heard of Newton's laws of motion when he was at school.
The really sad fact is that I used to believe all this twaddle.
George
in my opinion, in a body of elders let’s say with 7 elders , 2 or 3 were pretty much on the ball.
they were reasonable, intelligent and moderate.
the others were either extremely extreme about everything or very liberal.. did you have qualified older men or were they all lousy to you?
In every congregation I have been in there has been good and bad elders. Some are still in, some have drifted away and some have been D/F'ed.
However, one elder I know has been in the same congregation for over 40 years and an elder for almost all that time. As reliable as the North Star he has stuck at it through thick and thin. Other elders have come and gone. This last few months though he has gone very quiet, not answering, logging on to ZOOM at the last minute, leaving immediately after the last "Amen". He was away on holiday during the CO visit and never showed on ZOOM. I just wonder if he has finally woken up.
George
one thing i've learnt over the years is to read between the lines.. that means reading statements carefully.. if you have never met someone, would you say "i have never met them" or would you say "i don't remember ever meeting them"?.
the latter is just a get-out out in case evidence is presented that you did in fact meet them, because there is a photo of you with your arm around them in the upstairs of a pedo's friends, girlfriends house, which you also claim you never went to.. what will happen if the us jails a uk royal?
who knows.. before then i just hope he does another of those "utterly convincing" bizarre interviews to "prove" how he couldn't have done it because he is incapable of sweating (cut to photo of sweating andrew).
No problem with him going down. Ghastly bloke. But why should the yanks get to extradite him?
If they give up the spy who hit and run that young lad in Cambridge then we will allow it.
Absolutely. Anne Sacoolas killed Harry Dunn, the facts are uncontroversial. Prince Andrew may or may not have had sex with a 17 year old girl. Let's get our priorities right, even if he is an obnoxious royal.
George
my mom studied with me in the paradise book before i went to kindergarten.
i remember the book vividly.
it creeped me out as a kid.
Nathan Natas, myself and no doubt countless other children studied the LGBT book in the 1940/50's. There was an interesting QFR asking why the WT Society did not produce a book for children. The reply in part, is shown below.
George
Questions From Readers June 15, 1952
● Why does not the Watchtower Society publish simplified material for parents to use in teaching their children Bible truths?—A question based upon frequent inquiries by readers.
It is also true that when the Law covenant ended and Christianity was established provision was made for a new priesthood to minister to the needs of obedient peoples, including an organized “faithful and discreet slave” class today that is commissioned to “give them their food at the proper time”, spiritual food here being meant. (Matt. 24:45-47; Heb. 3:1; 1 Pet. 2:9; Rev. 20:6, NW) But from this we may not argue that the “faithful and discreet slave” class must publish special books for children. The priests in Israel did not write special scrolls for the children to study. God’s Law did not provide for special tutoring of children groups separated from adults. Young and old were to assemble together for instruction. (Deut. 31:10-13) It is the same today. The “faithful and discreet slave” serves the spiritual food and arranges for congregational meetings of various kinds to make it available to all, young and old together. Then just as the parents in Israel had to fix these things in their minds so they could later impress them upon their children, parents today must simplify and clarify the truth for their children. Neither the priestly instruction in Israel nor the “discreet slave’s” provision for the theocratic organization today was or is for children exclusively.
None of the sixty-six books of the Bible were written specially for children. From infancy Timothy was taught by his grandmother Lois and his mother Eunice, not from some child’s study book, but from the Holy Scriptures. (2 Tim. 1:5; 3:15) The typical theocracy in Israel provided no simplified study material for children. Neither was such provision made in the days of Jesus and the apostles. None need be made now. Adapting the material to the child’s mental capacities is the parent’s assignment from God. It is good for the parent. It will make the parent a diligent student himself, for one’s knowledge must be thorough in order to explain clearly and simply to others.
my mom studied with me in the paradise book before i went to kindergarten.
i remember the book vividly.
it creeped me out as a kid.
Interesting story I heard about the Paradise book.
In the run up to its 1958 release there was discussion about Adam, as he was alone in the Garden of Eden, did he have his genitals or not? Not a subject for discussion in a children's book so the answer was intimated at in the illustrations.
On pages 20 and 21 is an illustration of Adam, carefully posed of course, but on page 20, to the left is a "cock" and on page 21 to his right is a squirrel with a couple of "nuts".
What will happen in the new world? The answer is in the illustration on page 241 where we see the "cock" and the squirrel with his "nuts" have made it through Armageddon.
Just someone's imagination?
George
my mom studied with me in the paradise book before i went to kindergarten.
i remember the book vividly.
it creeped me out as a kid.
There were two versions of "LGBT" -- a green one and a brown one. I can't recall which one we used, but it had to have been the later of the two.
The green version was released in 1946, the brown version in 1952. In those days books had to be paid for so although the brown version had been released, apparently many JW's carried on using the green version with studies for many years after. This happened in our family.
George
my mom studied with me in the paradise book before i went to kindergarten.
i remember the book vividly.
it creeped me out as a kid.
"Let God be True" - Green version
George
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/london-site-jehovahs-witness-hq-movie-studios-netflix-b947841.html.
evening standard, july 26, 2021. london.
holy smoke: london site of jehovah’s witness hq to be movie studios.by .
I wonder how much they sold it for and what will happen to the money ?
No idea how much but all the funds will be used in charitable works to help hard up JW's and non-JW's that have suffered deprivations over the last year or so. That's what charities do. *
As regards the properties they were all up for sale on a property website run by the WT society, I will see if I can find it.
George
* Feeling a bit sarcastic this morning!
Edit:- IBSAProperty.com
lloyd has a reminder set for a "leaked" video that he will be reviewing tomorrow, but it lacks details in the description.
does anyone know what video he is referring to, or is this an upcoming loyd evans exclusive?.
i find leaks exciting, especially if it's something that was never meant to be public and puts some serious egg on the faces of the blundering body..
Just watched this, quite unbelievable. Thirty eight minutes of diatribe with no proof or substance for any of it.
However, I think it does reveal how much the internet and social media is hurting them and they know it. If only I was 60 years younger........
George
each eye-opener in my awakening had nothing to do with apostates.
it was always by looking directly at the so-called spiritual food that helped me awaken.. in 2019 they changed the wording of the second of two baptismal questions which are answered aloud before the audience.
now i realize that these questions have been adjusted over the years.
There's got to be some reason for the latest wording change (removing "spirit-directed"). Anybody know (or guess) why? I strongly feel the reason is self-serving.
Personally I think there have been so many disastrous appointments by Holy Spirit, people who have turned out to be be adulterers, rapists, murderers etc. It became very obvious that HS was no way involved in such appointments.
So they have taken the blame away from the Holy Spirit by this move. Now they are appointed by HS only in the sense that they appear to other men to fulfil the requirements for elders, MS's publishers etc as laid out in the Bible. See the quote below:-
Bearing Thorough Witness Page19
22 This incident reminds us of the importance of organization among God’s people. To this day, responsible men are selected to serve as overseers in the congregation. The elders carefully consider the Scriptural qualifications required of such overseers, and they pray for the guidance of holy spirit. The congregation thus views such men as appointed by holy spirit. For our part, we remain submissive and obedient to their lead, promoting a cooperative spirit in the congregation.—Heb. 13:17.
George
